About 15 years ago the body of elders inmy wife's cong. wanted to remove one of the elders. Since this elder had given me a study, the BOE thought to give me and my family a lavish dinner so I could spill some beans about the persecuted elder. Long story short. All the males (Latinos mostly from central America), about three elders and two or three ministerial servants and me were ouside talking about everything. The subject all of a sudden turned to how this particular group of people was so lazy. Everybody seemed to agree and chimed in with their own story. My wife and I left the social meeting and within days I sent a letter to the WT referencing this conversation and few other things (long story). The WT wrote back and essentially told me to "mind my own business" in a more gentle vocabulary. However, it was nice to know that few months later, they had in the same BOE a person of this group that was so "lazy". This was a Hispanic congregation in the U.S.. The first language of the new elder was not even Spanish. In fact, it's extremely unusual to see Americans of this group in Hispanic congregations.
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Racist comment from Jehovahs Witness!
by Seraphim23 ini work as a concierge for a building in central london.
recently we had a new window cleaner firm take over, as the old boy who had done the job for years, retired!.
i noticed that the new guy (with assistant) was a jw because i asked for his business card and noticed the blood card nestled tightly in the wallet card holder compartment, as he reached for a card.
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Ready to step my apostate game up...
by Joliette injust dont know when i'm gonna be able to do that.. right now, i am working full time, i go to school part time, etc.
i want to start traveling more, doing more activist work, visiting more apostate friends, and helping to get people out of this 'so called religion.'.
in other words, i want to start going to un-preach where the need is great.
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never a jw
You have a PM Joliette
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Does the New "Donations" arrangement comply with the Bible?
by objectivetruth init is a christian's responsibility to give of his time & resources.. this command is found all through the scriptures.. matthew 5:42 "give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you.".
deuteronomy 15:7 "if anyone is poor among your fellow israelites in any of the towns of the land the lord your god is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them.".
proverbs 21:26 "all day long he craves for more, but the righteous give without sparing".
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never a jw
I think you can use the Bible to justify almost anything, so I think your question is pointless. The new arrangement is not demanding unilaterally a fixed amount so it becomes voluntary. It certainly smells to high heaven, but what matters is what is written regardless of the psychological manipulation behinfd the text
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OMG!! Worldly people ARE so greedy and hateful!! I am leaving JWN!!!
by DATA-DOG incheck out this greed and lack of financial transparency by this worldy a-hole!!
no wonder the gb keep the finances confidential!
hurry and repent!
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never a jw
What a waste. The money should have been sent to the GB for building 13000 kingdom halls and 35 assembly halls.
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That does it ! I'm leaving ! ! !
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inleaving the university with my degree!.
exams are finished and it's just a matter of days before i walk.. i was certainly stressed about doing this.
i'm older than my classmates and armageddon was sooooo close!
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never a jw
Great!!! Big congratulatory hug to you.
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Short Online Course (Free) on the Fall and Rise of Jerusalem in 587BCE by Tel Aviv University
by digderidoo infor those interested in the fall and rise of jerusalem in 587bce tel aviv university are offering a short 6 week online course through coursera in october 2014.. i have done a couple of coursera courses, they are always of the highest quality put together by scholars of whatever the subject matter is about.
universities tend to offer these as tasters and short introductions into their specialities.. you can get the information on the following link the fall and rise of jerusalem | coursera.
emory university are also offering a course through coursera on the bible's prehistory, purpose, and political future starting may 26th the bible's prehistory, purpose, and political future | coursera.
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never a jw
I just advised the main elder in my wife's congregation to take the course and I reminded that for several months I have offered a sizable amount of money (enough for a kingdom hall in latinamerican coutries) to him or the WT itself if they can produce the research regarding VAT 4956 suppporting WT chronology. His answer so far 'No thanks, I don't want to look into things that I know are wrong" (several months ago)
and today his answer, verbatim:
"Ok, thanks. But regarding your money offer, I appreciate the gesture to finance more Kingdom Halls, but I personally do not participate in wagers, especially regarding spiritual matters. I hope you understand."
I replied saying that it's not a wager, confirming that he or the WT are not under any obligation to pay anything under any circumstance. All they have to do is produce support for their chronology using VAT 4956 and I build them two kingdom halls in Africa or one in Latinamerica. That's all. I even advised him to get the WT lawyers working on this. I haven't heard from him yet. We will see.
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New Scientist Article: God not-botherers: Religious apathy reigns
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22229671.500-god-notbotherers-religious-apathy-reigns.html#.u2je8vco7mr.
god not-botherers: religious apathy reigns.
01 may 2014across the developed world, people are losing interest in god without becoming atheists.
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never a jw
Happy to know that I belong to the group with the fastest growth!
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organization against child abuse
by never a jw ineven though i have never been a jw, i hope just as much as many of you to bring the wt to its knees, even put it behind in the annals of history of millenarian religions.
one thing that gets me very very upset is the abuses commited against all children raised in a jw household.
the list is long.
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never a jw
Even though I have never been a JW, I hope just as much as many of you to bring the WT to its knees, even put it behind in the annals of history of millenarian religions. One thing that gets me very very upset is the abuses commited against all children raised in a JW household. The list is long
Pedophiles
No higher education
Psichological damage with all that scary literature
"No celebratons", which may have a deleterious effect in the mind of young ones
Shunning
Blood policy, etc
A strong case against the WT can be made to the public through an organization that is devoted to protecting children by means of messages in the internet, signs pamphlets.
The AAWA thing may not get much traction because most people don't care about people who belonged to whacky religions, but if you mention damage to children then the public is willing to listen. For the first time in my last two years studying the WT doctrines I feel that I have a great idea to undermine the WT growth and the spreading of their horrible message.
I have had a great life in every sense, that's why from time to time I try to help someone who is not as lucky as I have been; I want to pay pack the blessings. However, I need to find that cause that is much greater than all the little deeds that I have done for individuals. I think this type of project is that driving force that will add more meaning to my life. I don't have the leadership skills, but I got the passion against the WT. I need people to join the idea and eventually the project
What do you guys think?
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Quotes from the Watchtower that you agree with 100%
by nicolaou injust curious.
add your quotes with no commentary if you like, it should be obvious why you agree.. the dangers of being deceivedthe really sad fact is that very often the person who is deceived or deluded tends to hold on to his belief in spite of strong evidence proving otherwise.
perhaps he gets so emotionally attached to his belief that he simply shuts his eyes and closes his ears to any evidence that might challenge it.. the watchtower, 01/09/ 2010 p10/11.
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never a jw
Death to false prophets, metaphorically speaking. I know that's not the quote, but they have denounced false prophets and believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God, and the Bible contains such statement somewhere. Therefore "death to the Watchtower organization, and free the people"
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New Study On Alzheimers And Coconut Oil
by metatron inhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24150106.
there have been a number of dramatic anecdotal accounts about coconut oil and alzheimers but this is the first clinical study (favorable) that i am aware of.. .
metatron.
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never a jw
Bogus. I consume large amounts of coconut oil a day and still don't remember where I left my cell phone or the names of half of my customers. Tastes great with rice bread though.